Former acting national police commissioner Kgomotso Phahlane testifies before the Khampepe Commission and addresses his role in relation to Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) cases. In his testimony, Phahlane states that he was not involved in TRC-related matters, clarifying what he says were the boundaries of his participation. He also provides broader reflections on conditions within the South African Police Service (SAPS), describing instability and operational challenges that, according to his account, affected the institution’s functioning. The testimony focuses on separating Phahlane’s personal and professional involvement from the administration of TRC cases, while also using the occasion to comment on the institutional context in which policing leadership and decision-making were carried out. Overall, the account presented in the source is centred on his denial of involvement in TRC cases and his remarks about SAPS stability during the period under discussion, as the commission seeks information relevant to its mandate.