Former House Speaker Paul Ryan says the current state of U.S. politics is “fundamentally unserious,” arguing that lawmakers are not addressing major fiscal problems in a serious way. Speaking during a CNBC appearance, Ryan links the lack of progress to politics that he believes prioritize political messaging over substantive policy.

Ryan’s comments focus on the national debt and what he characterizes as insufficient efforts to rein it in. He argues that both major parties have gravitated toward populist approaches rather than pursuing “serious” debt reduction measures. In the coverage, Ryan frames the problem as a broader deterioration from earlier periods, saying politics “used to be better.” The reporting emphasizes his criticism, with limited detail in the excerpts provided about specific policy proposals or legislative steps.