Megyn Kelly says independent journalist Don Lemon should run for president after Lemon teased a potential 2028 bid. Kelly made the comments during a Tuesday episode of her YouTube show, referring to Lemon’s Oct. 3 appearance on the podcast “Uncloseted,” where he discussed the possibility of launching a campaign.

In her remarks, Kelly frames her suggestion as a surprise to viewers, saying she intends to “shock” people with her view. The outlets differ mainly in emphasis—one highlights Kelly’s view that Lemon’s candidacy should be seriously considered, while the other quotes her urging more directly—but both attribute the discussion to Lemon’s public comments about a future presidential run and Kelly’s encouragement of the idea.